Love the features. Casing and band are a bit boring. Maybe a glossy black to make it look more refined.
Thank you for your suggestion! We are actively considering making the strap available in multiple colors, including black.
only more Battery power。
and open the sdk to our developer.thanks.
Super. Liker denne og håper den kommer ut snart.Har reservert.
OK! Forse migliorerebbe se cinturino e corpo fossero in acciaio...più elegante, raffinato e non sarebbe appariscente.
It's hard to tell if there needs to be any changes to the design without seeing it on someone's wrist, you should post a photo of someone wearing it, or a prototype, or something of the sort.
I agree completely
Will the watch face be removable? Hard to tellin the renderings.
The Pine will be easily removable from its strap.
Your neptune watch looks like a childs watch or a cheap toy. I would like to have one but looks need emproving. Gordon.
With all the changes lately (Google Play on and off), change of screen dimensions and the fact that we only ge to see renderings, I can only repeat: I smell Vaporware...
Let's See, how fast you delete my post this time... :)
Please understand that we are still largely in the development phase of the project. Therefore, changes can still be made at this point and that's why we're trying to get suggestions from people regarding the specs and design of the device before it's too late. Don't worry, you will see a video of a working prototype very soon!
Have you considered incorporating the battery or a larger portion of the battery into the wrist band? (Obviously in connected segments so it would be flexible)
and will it be capable of voice recognition technology? That would be a significant feature to balance the small keyboard and compete with future competitors
Thanks for the suggestions! We will look into incorporating the battery into the wrist band; that`s a really good idea! And yes, the Pine will feature the excellent voice recognition already present on Android 4.2.
im just wondering what the talk and battery time would be, with all the radio and wireless features plus GSM etc, i would suggest wireless charging unit as a optional extra? and maybe a spare strao with the the batteries as leo's comment?
The overall design of the watch chassis and band is very obtuse. Futuristic and innovative. Very innovative. Although I feel, the average consumer may want something that does not grab the eyes of everyone when the watch is visible. In my opinion the watch could use three or four variations. Something more durable for the tech savvy outdoors man, construction worker, or sports active individual. A design much more subtle, with a look much less intrusive but with character. My thoughts live the concept.
Take a look at our post "Concept of An Easily Removable Smartwatch". Tell us what you think!
I have two suggestions, its either make a plain teal colour or make it look a bit funky by using three colours or something... Its just tht i really hope theres a blue one..
Thank you for your suggestions, we will try our best to incorporate your colors in our design!
WiFi only version might garner wider support because it will be lower cost and no monthly fees. I take my smartphone phone everywhere and I have no need for a second one; nor will I replace my phone with a watch (however good that watch might be). I have a Galaxy Notepad 10.1 and I wifi connect it either to my Note II phone or a wifi router only - no data plan. It works very well for me (and better battery life to-boot).
Integrate Google Now into your plans (I suspect you will anyway). Now has great potential but lacks good hardware support from non-Nexus devices in my view. I want the darn thing to talk to me and know everything (e.g. Actively notify or TELL ME about my next appointment, don't just show it).
Phone strap as a concept looks very tacky. I strongly suggest an option like the Sony Smartwatch (which I have now) where you can change that for a standard one. I saw an image where you had the USB built into the strap. Very cool, but that won't work if you allow custom straps, so I'd say abandon that and put USB connector on the watch.
I second this. This kind of tech may never replace the full sized phone (at least not now). Wifi only version would generate massive attention.
Having a full-blown cell phone incorporated into your watch is the concept idea of the neptune pine. Perhaps Pebble is what you are searching for.
I agree, it might have some broader audience having two versions, but in the end I dont believe anyone would buy the least expensive one to cut the costs.
I am looking for a watch like the neptune pine. The fact that it has no show-off video and is not currently available is the thing that is stopping me from ordering. I won't use pre-order as it seem the final features are still object to change.
I would like to develop a monitoring application on this watch.
A G-Sensor is badly missing. Any plans to add one?
Also just making sure, can I develop Android apps on it?
Yes you can develop Android apps on it! Also, we are happy to tell you that there is indeed enough space on the PCB board to fit both the highly requested accelerometer (G-Sensor) and gyroscope!
hi i would love to be a tester for this device i have a technology background, thanks
hi i would love to be a tester for this device i have a technology background, thanks i am also a graphic designer and i would offer my services for free if ur interested
Much too drab and the look of plastic is counter productive! The style is missing & looks to be from the 80s when we started seeing those small digital disposable blinking clocks powered by button batteries.
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I love the idea and approach you are taking for the next wave of wrist watches. One recommendation I can make is to make the watch rotatable so that we (the buyer) can turn the watch around on an axis or center. This will allow for easier handling in certain situations where we have to move our arm. Anyway, good luck and keep up the good work.
Would I b right in saying that this will work over wifi if you don't put a SIM card in it?
If not then a wifi only version would not be daft as no matter how good a smartwatch is I will still use my note II.
Hi Stephen, yes; the watch will work well over wifi even if there's no SIM card in it.
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The idea already posted by Anton allowing the watch to rotate sounds like it could look more appealing and be more practical on the wrist. If not rotatable at least able to be moved 90 degrees.
Would also like to see an additional cam (front facing) for Skype etc. Could one be squeezed in?
Would love to also have a front facing cam for Skype etc. Could one be squeezed in?
Unfortunately, it will be very hard for us to fit an additional front facing camera because the front of the device is already largely occupied by the LCD screen and the touch panel. We only have 2-3mm border around this screen and that's obviously not enough for a front facing camera. Sorry for not being able to accomplish this. The good news is that we have found a way to satisfy those who want larger screens and front-facing cameras all the while having the convenience of a smartwatch...we will reveal that soon in the coming weeks! Stay tuned and you'll see!
Front-facing camera and skype capability
We strongly recommend camera to be Front-facing.
I think it's okey that border increases for camera's round shape, that appeals front camera and more cute design.
I would love to have an FM transmitter in the Pine. If you can put it in, then the Pine would be my dream phone! :P
Transmitting FM seems like quite a stretch. As a wrist phone, certainly transmitting & receiving voice is to be expected. Suspect a FM receiver would be more in line with usefulness.
I don't really understand what you said. I want to use it to listen to my music anywhere on radio, like in my car.
The radio 'receiver' in the watch would allow audio via a radio wave 'transmission'. It's doubtful that a wrist phone will 'transmit' broadcasts other than the phone number entered. We think when you commented:
I would love to have an FM transmitter in the Pine. If you can put it in, then the Pine would be my dream phone!
I would love to have an FM receiver in the Pine. If you can put it in, then the Pine would be my dream phone!
But perhaps you want to broadcast too!
The SGM 969 Golden seems to be the ideal wrist phone packed with features but have yet to find a legitimate seller!
To dramatically improve battery performance, pls contact Ascent Solar Technologies. Warren Buffet invests, they're tiny and public. Ticker ASTI. They just developed this very thin film solar "paper" and are looking for consumer applications. Perhaps the watch band wrapped in their proprietary solar film would boost your battery life?
This looks great and I hope it works out for ya'll one suggestion I have is Micro SD card capability. I want to add media quickly and have the option of expandability. Add a Micro SD slot!
Also, given that it is so tiny, if one has a bit of time and would truly like to use it to its full potential a stylus would be in order.
Last tidbit is bluetooth for wireless headphones etc.
Just some thoughts,
I think I would recommend the following things.
1. OLED screen. If this can be done, it'll save on battery life.
2. Have a watch dock for easy charging (inductive or pogo pins). As we'll be charging this daily, the micro USB port on the watch may break over time.
3. For plastics and other (namely the strap), there is a company in Austria called Gloryfy that uses gflex for there sunglasses. Maybe look into this material wise, it's amazing stuff. Do NOT go with glossy plastic anywhere , it looks horrible/cheap and if we pull this watch out of the strap is must have grip or a tactile feel.
4. Forget front facing camera as video calling would be pointless on a 2.5 inch screen and not to mention kill battery life.
5. G+ must work day 1 with this watch, with the camera it just makes sense.
6. Make accessories like the Bluetooth headset, straps, charging station, separate to lower costs (or bundle them in as a special edition).
7. Ship the product using environmental friendly materials (recycled cardboard) and use a QR code to direct people back to your site for the manual (saving manual printing costs, welcome note/card are fine)
That's all. :-)
are you guys still open to new design concepts or must we only add to the set parameters? i think a touch screen keyboard for a screen that size is going to be a nightmare for people with bigger fingers.
Of course we are open to new design concepts! If you have any neat ideas regarding a new aesthetic design, you may send a drawing to firstname.lastname@example.org and we'll definitely consider it for our final design!
Give a small stylus with it for better usage.
Those are really great suggestions! Thank you for taking the time to try to improve upon our product; we really appreciate it! We will definitely be integrating some or all of your suggestions in the Pine; so stay tuned and we assure you you'll see a great product in the end!
This watch needs a pedometer with calorie meter and route tracking via GPS and it needs a minimum 8mp camera rear and 2 mp camera front in order get me away from cell phone.
Thanks for the input! We'll consider the pedometer as well as the camera resolutions!
The option to have a metal or leather strap would be nice (perhaps a "premium" version with a metal case and leather strap?).
Also, I would like to see a headset that can control some of the features of the phone (start/stop music, press to make calls, etc.) so I can use the phone without having to remove it or lift up the sleeve - i.e. having the headset cable run up my arm to the ear buds/microphone that would hang out of my collar.
Otherwise, love the design and would happily buy one now if it was available.
Some more thoughts:
Have an option for an earpiece similar to what the likes of the FBI use in films and suchlike.
Here is an example:
One important point to add.. I'm a music guy. since it does play music do you guys consider having better sounding hardware?software? and also what format can it play is also important. ^^ Cheers! Next point is that can it bluetooth, NFC connect with other devices to share items?
I dont think you should at this point change anything. If the renderings of the device are close to what you actually release then it seems to be the best design to get all the functionality described. I do think the price point will be an issue.
I hate carrying a phone, and have been waiting for a decent watch/phone for a while, but wasn't willing to shell out for the Samsung. This looks good.
1. Some of the older, cheap Chinese phones had call-drop issues due to the small antenna, I hope this wont be an issue with your product. If it's is a problem, how about using the strap for the antenna?
2. A slightly raised side will help protect this from the abuse watches get.
3. I'd love to see a nicer looking wristband, preferably made out of some kind of metal, or leather.
Nice to see something new coming out of Canada. Wish you the best. Hope to see good reviews and good sales.
Kinetic and solar based recharging would be awesome. Maybe the band could be coated with a nano solar film.
Please incorporate water resistance that will allow swimming with it. Ability to use in the wilderness as a tracking/backtracking, waypoint saving navigation device. Will it be able to reverse display...light areas of display- dark for night use?
I would definitely go for a chunkier but sleeker more ruggedised design, waterproof, possibly wraparound form factor with the watch removeable from the band which has additional battery, antennae with an internal pogo pin connector. In the sensor department it should include a barometer for altitude / weather. The option of two versions eg chunky, heavier, all options for extreme / male use and a more demure delicate style for female / civilised use. Maybe this could be achieved with various styles of band. I do worry that the proposed form factor might catch on things, and I'd even consider doing away with protruding buttons all together. I have an image in my mind that looks like black wraparound sunglasses that could even fit with matching "black wraparound sunglasses" as a wireless HUD display / sensor platform, eg stereo cameras, EEG, eye movement, oh and headphones!
I suggest adding the following features:
1- Small Stylus, (should be incorporated within the body similar to the palm-pilot).
2- Type D micro HDMI, (so we can connect the smart watch to any modern LCD and have a larger view).
3- FM receiver, (antenna support via headsets).
If your company will end-up paying any Android royalty which will increase the cost of the smartwatch, then consider switching to the new Mozilla foundation Firefox OS ecosystem, HTML5 will have a huge potential considering that all new browsers supporting it.
Different, nicer looking band, WATERPROOF it for swimmers, divers, surfers, kite-surfers, runners that sweat, etc & add a SCUBA computer w/ apps to be able to see & send dive profile. Ability to use with Panasonic's Link2Cell, touch-screen buttons you can really touch, a stylus w/ holder so you can do this. If it did all that, ran the apps I like, great reception & battery life(biggest problem w/ cell watches), uses AAA NiMH (standard) batteries, replaceable O ring for water-proofing, quad-band for international use, Usable on pre-paid networks (as most likely NOT going to be a primary phone) as well as regular networks, 1080p/i resolution I can plug into any TV via mini-HDMI to HDMI. It would be the perfect cell phone watch!
What kind of heart rate sensor will you be using? I would like to see an optical sensor with the reliability of a mio alpha!
By the way ... for people using this thing for sports... please include ANT+ connectivity or at least bluetooth smart low power profile. There are lot's of phones with bluetooth 4 support out there at the moment but most of them come without the low power profile for android which is really annoying.
First thank you so much for adding the accelerometer!
Can you publish the dimensions of the device?
First thank you so much for adding the accelerometer!
Can you publish the dimensions of the device?
Sorry for the duplicate posts... posting has given me an error but turns out it has successfully published the post.. 4 times..
Feel free to delete the duplicates and this one...
I'm working on a research project where we look at introducing this type of device for smarter communication within a hospital. Therefore we are very much interested in your watch. However, due to the infection risk, the device cannot be carried on the wrist in hospitals. Are there any possibility that the device can be carried in a pocket using a clip (similar to a pager) or as a nurse watch (attached to the chest)?
a wifi-only version, a stylus, and a larger portion of the battery into the wrist band. your work seems great i'm looking forward to see a working prototype video.
Add 4g if you want people to upgrade from their old phones
So i think it would look better with a metal band.
It should have speaker phone but you guys probably already decided to do that.
A classier look i think
Please release the product with OS of different language (e.g.Traditional Chinese Version). At least, the text can be sent and received in different language.
I feel a flashlight (if one doesn't come for the camera) would be one of the most important additions it could have. Also a more rugged exterior or possible a case for people who work with their hands.
Will it have a hotspot?
I think you should exclude the camera to save space and battery life, anyone wants to take pictures then he/she should use a smartphone not a smartwatch.
I believe camera is preferred as a best option.
Are you still open for suggestions?
1) I would suggest a stylus (it Always comes handy).
2) Then I would say the phone needs to have the equivalent of Google maps, a gps, calorie counter.
3) Is it 3g or gsm?
4) It should even have a small front facing camera (2mp)) (where does the phone watch have a camera now) and a back facing camera of 5 or 8 megapixel.
5) a 8 /16 /32gb card included in the price would be good. (depending on the model)
6) And could it have skype capability?
7) When will it be released july or august? And when can you recieve one if you have already preordered (does it take 1 month)?
Needs a big brother version with:
- slightly larger wider 3" screen
- Waterproof for sailing\diving with optional waterproof wrist band
- GPS via a bluetooth GPS device pairing
- auto light sensor for screen brightness to save power and switch color\contrast for full bright sun or night time situations
- provide free access\specs for application development
As for you battery problem.. A simple solution is:
Use the watch band as your battery source. Multiple tiny batteries throughout (internally in-cased) the band chained together. Like a battery operated car. Also a small battery in unit to keep from losing any data when disconnected from the band. Like the battery's function on a computer's motherboard.
- Will eliminate batteries from getting hot.
- Create more space in the unit.
- Able to add interchangeable units in the future. Like scanner, emergency light, sensory units for certain trades, etc.
Please contact me if you think any of my ideas could work for you I don't mind discussing more possible innovative functions.
i would like to suggest .... that it would be nice if it comes with metallic design like steel .... with the medium size of the ban ....
For hot climates like Australia, an expanding metal or possibly leather wrist band would be welcome. Plastic just does not 'breath' well. I'd also be concerned about the 'click in' attachment method for the device. Some sort of locking might be good to prevent pick pockets just grabbing the device off the band.
From the pictures that I have seen so far I think the screen looks tiny. I would appreciate if the screen size can be increased a little bit just to cater for us who have large hands and fingers.
Elastomer wristband may become problematic unless replacements are inexpensive and widely available. Elastomers don't handle sweat and UV well, become brittle fast.
I use watchphones - no-name Chinese 2G stuff - for 2 years already. From my experience I can tell that metal body and standard wristband attachment are huge assets. Custom, model-specific wristbands are a disaster - they are expensive and rare, for my Suunto sportswatch I have to pay $20 for a new band, which is just a piece of elastomeric shit.
Another big asset is Dual Sim. My current watchphone is a Dual Sim, which helps tremendously on business trips. I understand the space constraints and significant battery life decrease, but having a dual will be like heaven :)
Hi Neptune Pine,
Very much impressed on first hearing. Would like to have it in my hands. Meanwhile, I would to see the following features:
1. (Black) Metallic design will add more attractive. You can categorized into a different segment.
2. Stylus can be added or compatable with other smartphone stylus, especially galaxy note 2 stylus.
3. Solar cells in the wrist band.
4. You have to improve your advertisements on your products.
5. Improve the resolution.
6. Wireless charging option.
7. Your smartwatch will be unbeatable, if its a dual SIM. (I know its very tough). Think about inserting the SIM (s), memory cards in the wrist band. If the watch (rectangle component) is removed from the wrist band, it works like a standalone watch (without connection to one or both SIM cards and memmory card). You can increase the thickness of the strap.
I think any watch would be water resistant (splash and sweat resistant) or waterproof (submergeable). If that's expensive to make, maybe to Pine models are an option: waterproof model and a cheaper non-waterproof model.
I use a Z1 Android watch phone now. I'm looking forward to the Neptune Pine to replace it. I hope that the Neptune Pine has the same pros and non of the cons of the Z1.
Pros of the Z1:
- runs standard Android apps
- built in USB connector in wrist band
- reasonable 2MP camera
- GPS sensor
- reasonable 800mAh battery
- sufficient amount of RAM
- quite cheap
- reasonable thin (15-16mm)
Cons of the Z1
- ridiculous slow processor (only 416mHz!!!)
- there is no 'home' button!!! only up/down/on/menu
- No 3G, only Egde (2,75G)
- Bad Wifi reception
- Not waterproof at all
If the Neptune Pine doesn't have these cons, I'm willing to pay for it.
I wont if the watch is:
- too thick (max 17mm)
- not water resistant
- too slow (CPU slower than 800mHz)
- lacks enough RAM
- highly sensitive microphone and high volume speaker, so you can use the watch phone without earpiece or bluetooth too.
I have been using watch phones for five years. You may want to read the following article, where I vent all my frustrations accumulated over those years…
Great idea...I own and moderate the only watch phone network on the WWW and have the most tech savy watch phone owners on the planet. In our forum we have reviewed your project and believe if you set some basic QA specifics your product will revaluationize wrist telephony. 2 suggestions right now...ip67 or 68 proof and ontop time display.
Great to see jtr in the house. If there are watch phone owners who know their stuff, It's bas and Dr. Lex!
The unit must work independent from smart phone. It should have a two inch screen at the least. Expandable memory and camera for video conference.
I think the design is neat and if its as slim as it looks then you are onto a winner. It's a simple elegant design I think you should stick to including the wrist band. If you can squeeze some battery into the band without altering the design then all good but don't spoil a slick design by encompassing a bulky battery.
Please, please do not attach the phone permanently to the wristband. Everyone, and I really mean _everyone_ to whom I've shown my watchphones, had an immediate reaction like “and is it convenient to call by holding your arm up?” It really is amazing how consistent this reaction is across all people. I guess they all get flashbacks to Knight Rider or something.
Nobody except enthusiasts want to buy a watchphone and I believe the main reason is that people assume it is necessary to shout to your wrist or hold your arm in a cramp-inducing pose. For the general public, the ability to detach the phone will be a ground-breaking feature. When you're going to market this thing, you must put a large emphasis on the detachability in every commercial.
Using a wristband that is easy to open (no tang buckle!) is an alternative, but only barely. My very first watch phone was detachable. The two models after that were not. I did the effort to fit a folding clasp on them, but still every time I had to answer a call, I thought “damn, that first watch phone was so much more convenient than this”.
IMHO it should have a loudspeaker or be used only with a bluetooth paired device, be it a handsfree or the audio system of your car.
I am +1 for the idea for the wristband to be detachable, but I am not certain that if you call your friend he will put you on hold while detaching the watch and take your call afterwards. It is just silly.
I would rather propose the calls and all the functionality to be available upon pairing with a bluetooth device. This way the phone would be thicker.
3.5" jack is a standard these days, but it takes some space. I would sacrifice the 3.5" for a bluetooth paired headphones at the cost of having a quality sound card. Having stinky sound would render the device useless.
“I am not certain that if you call your friend he will put you on hold while detaching the watch and take your call afterwards. It is just silly.”
I have no idea what you mean. The phone rings, you detach it, you answer the call. Total time: less than two seconds, no need to put anyone on hold. If you think this is impossible, it was already possible with the Chinese watch phone I had five years ago. Its detachment mechanism only added one millimeter to the total thickness. That is a small price to pay for not being required to carry a headset of any kind, which would be a deal-breaker for me.
Read the webpage that can be reached by clicking my name, and take a look at the sketches.
Would be great if a working magnetic compass would be added to this.
Is this watch waterproof? If it is not, then accidents could happen to it. also there should be some sort of scratch resistant glass on the screen; just in case you scratched it by accident. Also, try improving the battery (at least 1000 mAh) and screen resolution (at least 200 ppi) of the watch.
And what are the buttons for on the watch (e.g. home button, volume, on/off button, back button etc.)?